Venom Movie
#1
Sony is giving us a Venom movie next year starring Tom Hardy (Warrior, Taboo, Mad Max, Inception, Dark Knight Rises, etc). This gives me a lot of hope for the project because not only is Hardy a great actor, he known to be very picky about the roles he chooses. So that means he liked the pitch.

I also like the idea of this movie being an R rated sci fi horror film. That's perfect for Venom (And Carnage if he's the villain of the film). Hopefully this redeems Venom on film after Spider-Man botched him.

What do you think of this?
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#2
On the one hand, Tom Hardy as Venom.

On the other, Sony's behind this as well Avi Arad. You know, the guy responsible for shoehorning Venom in Spider-Man 3 and taking away Sam Raimi's creative choices in that movie.
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Hm, significant optimism lost...
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(05-30-2017, 11:13 PM)Baron Num Nums Wrote: Hm, significant optimism lost...

Really? Why so? Sony has done great stuff with Spidey before though.
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EEEeeeeeehhhHHHHHHhhhhHHHhhhh, they been kinda hit and miss. Granted, better lately but definitely hit and miss.

At least it won't be no Suicide Squad though XD XD XD XD
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Yeah, no. At least Suicide Squad has some watchability. None of which revolves around Jared Leto or hula-whoop Enchantress, but I still would watch it any other day of the week over Amazing Spider-Man 2.

Oh and, Avi Arad was attached to the recent Ghost In The Shell live-action flick so, there's that.
“Ends are not bad things, they just mean that something else is about to begin. And there are many things that don't really end, anyway, they just begin again in a new way. Ends are not bad and many ends aren't really an ending; some things are never-ending.” ― C. JoyBell C.
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(X__X)

Accept it, you're doomed
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Should we have hope for the Venom movie?

When they first announced this version of the Venom film back in March of 2016, like many people I was upset that it wouldn't be connected to Marvel or possibly Spider-Man at all. I thought it sounded like a stupid and horrible idea. Then we didn't hear anything about the project for over a year until a few months ago when Sony announced a 2018 release date for the project. And once more news about the project started coming out about the film like the sci fi horror tone and the casting of Tom Hardy as Eddie Brock, I got more excited about the film, to the point where I'm more excited for this film than Homecoming.


I've noticed that despite some good news about the project, fans are still upset that this film is getting made. Here are some reasons why I think we should have hope for the Venom movie.


Venom is a great character (My favorite supervillain), deserves a solo film, and needs to be redeemed after Spider-Man 3 screwed him up. Some people view Venom as a mindless killing machine, but he's not. He's very complex and has been both a villain and an anti hero. And a lot of people think you can't tell a solo Venom story without Spider-Man. I think you can. In the comics, Venom has become more of a solo character.


Tom Hardy is involved with the film. This has excited a lot of people because Hardy is not only a great actor, he's known to be extremely picky about the roles he takes. He won't just accept any random movie you offer him. And if you look at his filmography, there aren't a lot of stinkers. So if someone like Hardy signed up to be part of a big universe (Not just a solo film), that's a good sign.



It will be an R rated sci fi horror film. That's perfect for something like Venom. I don't think every comic book movie needs to be rated R, but Venom is one that I think could benefit from an R rating with him probably being an anti hero and killing the bad guys who are scared of him.



Carnage. A lot of us have always wanted to see Carnage and Venom fight each other on the big screen. And if you want to do Carnage right, he has to be R rated (Something Marvel won't allow).



The director is Rubian Fiesher and the writer are Scott Rosenbum and Jeff Pinkner. Zombieland proves Fiesher has talent. Yes, he also directed Gangster Squad, but I blame the script more than his direction and I know they changed some stuff after the Aurora shooting. And with the writers, considering that they are writing other upcoming Sony films like The Dark Tower and Jumanji and Sony has given Venom to them, that's says something about what they think of those writers.



People like to crap on Sony for a lot of the bad movies they but out and some weird ideas they have. But don't forget, they can put out good movies too like District 9, Zombieland, Step Brothers, Talladega Nights, The Social Network, Men In Black, Moon, 21/22 Jump Street, The Night Before, Casino Royale/Skyfall, Cloudy With A Chance Of Meatballs, Life, The Magnificent Seven, Hotel Transylvania, Whiplash, etc. And while they screwed up Spider-Man 3 and The Amazing Spider-Man 2, they have done a good job with the Spider-Man mythos overall. They gave us Spider-Man, Spider-Man 2, The Amazing Spider-Man, and The Spectacular Spider-Man cartoon. And a lot of us are excited about some of their upcoming films like Baby Driver, The Dark Tower, He-Man, and Uncharted.


A lot of people are upset that Spider-Man may not be part of this universe (I actually like the fact that this will not be part of the MCU. Not everything needs to be connected guys). But to be fair, Sony has never actually said that. What I think will happen is Spider-Man will be alluded to in the film and there will be flashbacks to Venom's origin at the church.




I'm not guaranteeing that Venom will be a great movie. It could suck. But I think there are a lot of reasons for us to be hopeful about the film.

What do you think? Agree or disagree? Thanks.
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See my thoughts above and why I have my reservations, even if I do like Tom Hardy's casting.
“Ends are not bad things, they just mean that something else is about to begin. And there are many things that don't really end, anyway, they just begin again in a new way. Ends are not bad and many ends aren't really an ending; some things are never-ending.” ― C. JoyBell C.
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Venom/Sinister Six Movie Theory

We know that Sony is planning their own Marvel Universe that will start with next year's Tom Hardy lead Venom movie and will continue with Silver And Black in 2019. But what else could they be planning? There have been rumors that Sony still wants to make a Sinister Six film, but how can you make a Sinister Six film without Spider-Man being a key part of the film?


Here's a crazy theory. I remember during an episode of Collider Movie Talk a couple of months ago, the crew answered a question about Sony possibly making a Sinister Six film outside of the MCU and John Campea suggested that if they did, Venom would probably be the reason the team comes together instead of Spidey. This got me thinking "Could Sony actually do this?". And I'm starting to think they will.

I believe that Spider-Man will exist in Sony's new universe somehow, but he won't be a main character. I think that Venom will probably be the focus of this universe because of the character's popularity and Tom Hardy's casting. And Venom needs more villains to fight after Carnage. Why not The Sinister Six? Plus, with Marvel not wanting to focus on villains from the previous Spider-Man films, this could be Sony's chance to give us new takes on guys like Sandman, Doc Ock, and Lizard and redeem some other villains like Electro and Rhino. And with Kraven rumored to be the villain of Silver And Black, maybe that could set up him being a member of The Sinister Six.

What I think will happen is that I think some of these villains will be introduced in Venom, Silver And Black, and Venom 2 and then you will get to see a team up movie where The Sinister Six team up to fight Venom, Black Cat, and Silver Sable. And if that works, then Sony can finally make their Sinister Six film and maybe make it a better version of Suicide Squad.

What do you guys think of this theory? Do you think it's possible, or is it too insane? I know it would be a major change from the comics, but I would actually be okay with it if it's handled well. The most important thing is to make a good movie, not to be 100% true to the comics.

Thanks.
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